And I was in the backyard by myself, as many of us were by ourselves. So I feel like the last one Id like for you to read for us is A New National Anthem, which you read at your inauguration as Poet Laureate. And its page six of The Hurting Kind. If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course, Enough of us across all of our differences see that we have a world to remake. Limn: Oh, thank you. Shes written six books of poetry, most recently, The Hurting Kind. Special thanks this week to Daniel Slager, Yanna Demkiewicz, and Katie Hill at Milkweed Editions. Limn: Yeah. And one of them this is also on The Hurting Kind is Lover, which is page 77. And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. Before the divorce. I am a hearth of spiders these days: a nest of trying. And it felt like this is the language of reciprocity. writes the word lover in a note and Im strangely, excited for the word lover to come back. Before I bury him, I snap a photo and beg, my brother and my husband to witness this, nearly clear body. [laughter] Were like, Ugh, I feel calmer.. I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. And the Sonoma Coast is a really special place in terms of how its been preserved and protected throughout the years. I get four parents that come to the school nights. And I felt like I was not brave enough to own that for myself. and the world. And also that notion and these are other things you said that poetry recognizes our wholeness. Or, Im suffering, or Right. It makes room for all of these things that can also be It holds all the truths at once too. July 4, 2022 9:00 am. Two families, two different Yeah, it was completely unnatural. song. But I think the biggest thing for me is to begin with silence. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. Is it okay? The danger of all poets and I think artists in general, is it some moment we think we dont deserve to do this work because what does it do? so mute its almost in another year. Why did I never see it for what it was: a certain light does a certain thing, enough But let me say, I was taken Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity . But its also a land that is really incredibly beautiful and special and sacred in a lot of different ways. And I think for all of us, kind of mark this, which is important. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. [laughter] But I think you are a prodigy for growing older and wiser. unnoticed, sometimes covered up like sorrow. Alex Cochran, Deseret News. Thats how this machine works. Lean Spirituality. What were talking about and not when we talk about mental health. whats larger within us, toward how we were born. We want to rise to what is beautiful and life-giving. I was actually born at home. And he had a little cage, I would make sure he was And he would get bundled up and carried from house to house. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. Tippett: And then Joint Custody from The Hurting Kind. It wasnt used as a tool. One of the most popular episodes in the history of "On Being," the 15-year-old public-radio program hosted by the honey-voiced Krista Tippett, is a conversation Tippett had more than ten years ago with the late Irish poet and philosopher John O'Donohue on the subject of the inner landscape of beauty. Peabody Award-winning host Krista Tippett presents a live, in-person recording of the wildly popular On Being podcast, featuring guest speaker Isabel Wilkerson. I never go there very much anymore. And you mentioned that when you wrote this, when was it that you wrote it? water, enough sorrow, enough of the air and its ease, So at this point in my notes, I have three words in bold with exclamation points. And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. Yet it is a deep truth in life as in science that each of us is shaped as much by the quality of the questions we are asking as by the answers we have it in us to give. Theres how I dont answer the phone, and how I sometimes like to lie down on the floor in the kitchen and pretend Im not home when people knock. I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. Limn: Yeah. Tippett: So the poem you wrote, Joint Custody. You get asked to read it. Discoveries about the gut microbiome, for example, and the gut-brain axis; the fascinating vagus nerve and the power of the neurotransmitters we hear about in piecemeal ways in discussions around mental health. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. She loves the ocean. It unfolded at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis, in collaboration with Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Ada Limns publisher, Milkweed Editions. What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. I could. Her six books of poetry include, most recently, The Hurting Kind. letter on the dresser, enough of the longing and Out here, theres a bowing even the trees are doing. Thats page 95. And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. And coming in future weeks, is a conversation with a technologist and artist named James Bridle, whose point is that language itself, the sounds we made and the words we finally formed, and the imagery and the metaphors were all primally, organically rooted in the natural world of which we were part. And whats good for my body and my mental health. All of those things. Its Spanish and English, and Im trying, and Ill look at him and be like, How much degrees is it?. [laughter] I was so fascinated when I read the earlier poem. On Being with Krista Tippett. Im like, Yes. Dont get me wrong, I do, like the flag, how it undulates in the wind. What a time to be alive, adrienne maree brown has written. This poem is featured in Ada's On Being conversation with Krista, "To Be Made Whole.". The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. and the stoic farmer and faith and our father and tis Limn: Yeah, there wasnt a religious practice. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful Ocean Vuong right on the cusp of that turning, in March 2020, in a joyful and crowded room full of podcasters in Brooklyn. What would happen if we used our bodies to bargain. [Laughter] I feel like I could hear that response, right? and over against the ground, sometimes. Just back to this idea that there is this organic automatically breathing thing of which were part, and that we even have to rediscover that. I spoke with Ada Limn at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis. And the next one is Dead Stars. Which follows a little bit in terms of how do we live in this time of catastrophe that also calls us to rise and to learn and to evolve. And I love it, but I think that you go to it, as a poet, in an awareness of not only its limitations and its failures, but also very curious about where you can push it in order to make it into a new thing. Yeah. Sometimes its just staring out the window. And that feels like its an active thing as opposed to a finished thing, a closed thing. I live in the low parts now, most that sounds like someones rough fingers weaving I think thats very true. lover, come back to the five-and-dime. like water, elemental, and best when its humbled, if we launched our demands into the sky, made ourselves so big So we have to do this another time. Where being at ease is not okay. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and . It touches almost every aspect of human life in almost every society around the world right now. the trash, the rolling containers a song of suburban thunder. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course. us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt, and what I do not say is: I trust the world to come back. And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. teeth right before they break I think I enjoy getting older. We havent read much from The Carrying, which is a wonderful book. Exit What is the thesis word or the wind? But the song didnt mean anything, just a call But in the present era of tribalism, it feels like weve reached our collective limitations Again and again, we have escalated the conflict and snuffed the complexity out of the conversation.. Her presence on that stage was electric. We literally. And poetry, and poetry. Draco, Lacerta, Hydra, Lyra, Lynx. Yeah, I think theres so much value in grief. on all sides with want. Tippett: The thesis. Limn: When I lived in New York City, my two best friends, I would always try to get them to go to yoga with me. It is still the wind. is so bright and determined like a flame, But if you look at even the letters we use in our the A actually was initially a drawing of an ox, and M was water. I have a lot of poems that basically are that. I feel like I could hear that response, right? What, she asks, if we get this right? I was like, Oh. Then I came downstairs and I was like, Lucas, Im never going to get to be Poet Laureate.. unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright. Its wonderful. Tippett: Would you read this poem, The End of Poetry, which I feel speaks to that a bit. Tippett: Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. adrienne maree brown "We are in a time of new suns" On Being with Krista Tippett Society & Culture "What a time to be alive," adrienne maree brown has written. But I want you to read it second, because what I found in. And one of them this is also on. So, On Preparing the Body for a Reopened World.. tags: curiosity , listening , oral-history , vulnerability. Would you read this poem, The End of Poetry, which I feel speaks to that a bit. and you forget how to breathe. Winters icy hand at the back of all of us. and snowshoes, maple and seeds, samara and shoot, Like, Oh, take a deep breath. Then we get annoyed when it works, too. These full-body experiences of isolation and ungrieved losses and loneliness and fear and uncertainty. Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). And were at a new place, but we have to carry and process that. And now we have watched it in these 25 years go from strength, to strength, to strength. A friend, lover, come back to the five-and-dime. It brings us back to something your grandmother was right about, for reasons she would never have imagined: you are what you eat. Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. Helping to build a more just, equitable and connected America one creative act at a time. I could. Before the dogs chain. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. And that between space was the only space that really made sense to me. Yet whats most stunning is how presciently and exquisitely Ocean spoke, and continues to speak, to the world we have since come to inhabit its heartbreak and its poetry, its possibilities for loss and for finding new life. And then what we find in the second poem is a kind of evolution. God, which I dont think were going to get to talk about today. We journalists, she wrote, can summon outrage in five words or less. Find them at, Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. And thought, How am I right now at this moment? Okay. And that between space was the only space that really made sense to me. Thats such a wonderful question. enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough thats sung in silence when its too hard to go on, Tippett: Its that Buddhist, the finger pointing at the moon, right? like the flag, how it undulates in the wind Bottlebrush trees attract But let me say, I was taken, back and forth on Sundays and it was not easy, but I was loved each place. In her Peabody-award winning public radio show and podcast, On Being, Krista Tippett provides a space for deep and meaningful conversations with profound thi. Silence, which we dont get enough of. I will trust the world and I will feel at peace. And this time, what came to me as I stood and looked at the trees was that Oh, it isnt just me looking. I was like, Oh. Then I came downstairs and I was like, Lucas, Im never going to get to be Poet Laureate.. by being not a witness, What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. 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